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I think that it's wrong, but accept it as: "Just the way things are." |
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I do not think that it's right to do so, yet feel powerless to change it. |
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I don't care. |
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It's OK, as long as it's the musician making the call, and not their label. |
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I support the basic idea... but... |
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I support this marketing stratagy and think it's a good thing. |
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Music is free. |
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May the MUSIC INDUSTRY FALL TO THE DUST FROM WHICH IT CAME! |
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 Posted 9/18/2006 10:44 PM
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After reading my opinion on the subject, I feel that it's only fare for me to ask you what you think.
---The commercialization and industrialization of music is nothing less than the greatest sin that man has ever commited agains God! The band "Metalica" and their supporters are the Satan and Deamons of this sin, now demanding that you pay multiple times for the exact same material just because of it's "Format". Calling and making music shareing illegal is just as sinfull - The most recent abomination of this sin is the commercialization of MIDI files, the forced shutting down of MIDI archive websites, or worse yet... those like MIDI.com - who used to be a quality MIDI archive for all genre of music now selling out to the new marketing of SHORT - INDUSTRY APPROVED "RING-TONES". MIDI IS NOT NOW, HAS EVER BEEN or will EVER BE reduced to the status of a mere "ring-tone"... MIDI IS FREE - LIKE AIR! ...and any person who makes money off of a raw MIDI file is lower than a salesman of Snake Oil and sleazier than the sleaziest pimp - the slimeist whore and the greatest of the least of all the animal kingdom!
No artist should demand, or even desire to be compensated more than once for any single peice of art they sell to A SINGLE INDIVIDUAL! To even covet the idea of this is Blasphome - and the Congress of the United States of America are the Heritics that have permited this sin to be commited -
To anyone that supports this Industry Driven Tresspass against the Religion of the Soul, and the God it serves - I say this to you, and I mean it on every oath and promise I can make -
YOU - YOU ALL GO TO HELL AND NEVER, EVER COME BACK! Let this Grand Larceny against the American People be your haunting core - may this sin be all you know, and may you writhe and never escape it... and may the effects of this not be on the hands of the ignorant - may this Karma and all Effect directly related to YOUR CAUSE be transfered in equal protion to your perpetuation and propogation of this sin.
If The Will of God Permits...
So Mote It Be!
Cyberpunk X-13 a.k.a "The Gnosis"
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Posted 9/19/2006 6:26 AM
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So what your saying is... you are TOTALLY looking forward to the launching of hoofjaw.com and cant wait to use it's easy to navigate interface and rock bottom prices to search through our extensive collection of pro midi files to fill up your collection so you can produce the best songs possible?
Man that's awesome!... welcome!
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Posted 9/19/2006 11:53 AM
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I especially disagree with the whole "ringtone" industry. Makes me sick the prices they charge young kids to have the latest top 10 hit blasting out of their mobiles. SOme even charge more that a top 50 single, for what? 5-10 seconds of MIDI nonsense, or a very short grainy clip of audio that any monkey and a copy of audacity could bash out.
But professionally produced MIDI tracks, drum loops etc I can see having a future, especially with the likes of BFD and DFH.
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Posted 9/19/2006 3:57 PM
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Our goal is not to rip people off at all.
Dave for instance is a huge music enthusiast and accomplished muscian in his own right.... he and I saw a need for a unified venue where the MIDI community could buy and sell tracks, ameaturs could sell thier new creations, etc.
We wanted to bring together all the pro supplies in a nice clean simple site.. in addition the community aspect is HUGLY important to us. We launched the forums 3 months before the full site because we want to start to build this community.
Dave and I both have full time jobs outside outside of hoofjaw, this is a labor of love and I assure you makeing money is not the #1 goal.
If anyone has a problem or suggestion with what we are trying to do.. please reply and let us know. We would love to incorporate your feedback and ideas.
-Jeff
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Posted 9/25/2006 12:37 PM
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| i put my vote with it being the musician's choice. i do not agree with charging multiple times for the same piece of music just in a different media, unless it's to cover the cost of it e.g going from mp3 to CD i think it's okay to be charged for the CD, but if going CD to mp3 i think there should be no extra charge for the mp3 or very small. however i do agree there is a desperate need to stop illeagal file sharing as it is robing those who work hard writing/recording/producing/distributing/marketing the music. If it were allowed to simply continue growing there would be no music industry eventually. But it should be the artists' choice as to where their music is sold.
www.myspace.com/lawrencebrown
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Posted 9/26/2006 8:54 AM
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I agree.. I think the musicans shoudl have the choice but a lot of the time (espcially commerically) the musicans have signed away publishing rights so that would transfer ownership of the decision to the record company or producers.
overall I think that the pircacy has to be curtailed... in the end the people releasing "most" of the music are public companies and this free trading practice are just hurting thier bottom line. They have a obligation to thier shareholders to protect the revenue stream and so the RIAA goes completly apeshit.
With that said.. I am 100% convinced that if we had a reasonable fair use system, easy to use DRM, etc.... it would cut down on piracy ALLOT.
just my two cents.
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Posted 2/5/2007 5:25 PM
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MIDI should be Free! Well said. Whats the worst thing than can happen, someone rips of a song and gets sued for copyright?
i'm not happy to pay for a MIDI release based on a few things:
File size, its not like they are going to need an enormas bandwidth, compared to les say, a .wav file. Worst case I would be happy to pay a minor fee, and i'm talking cents, just to help a site that offered the service, they have bills too.
CD's, WAV, AIF, MP3 etc should be paid for (and I agree ONLY ONCE), as the artist needs to get something to support making good music and buying expensive hardware etc. This thing about each copy should be licensed i'm hoping is just the extreme right wing theory of what will become a realistic set of laws to help lower internet piracy.
So I agree with you. 
Ben Decker.
System: Macbook Pro, M-Audio Audiophile, FS2, Korg M1, X-Station 25, Dopher 16, KP2, UC-33e, MAC APPS: Reason 3, Live 6, Parallels WIN APPS: Fruit Loops, CEP2.
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Posted 2/11/2007 2:16 PM
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| Hey Ben: Allow me to play devil's advocate with your arguments here. Why should MIDI files be free? What about the artists that wrote the songs? What about the publishers that own the song rights? What about the MIDI programmer who spent 10-20 hours programming that song? Honestly, I see the provision of MIDI files as a service just like the service a plumber or electrician provides. If you need (or want) a MIDI file for a particular song, it is only fair to remunerate the specialist who performs that work for you. Just like people buy songs off the web legally (iTunes, Zune, and the like) and the artists and publishers do (and should) get paid - the same with MIDI files. Where is the hole in my logic? Cheers, Dave.
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Posted 3/20/2007 6:39 PM
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